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READERS' FORUM: Welcome to the Currie Cup Round One match between the Free State Cheetahs and the Blue Bulls in Bloemfontein.

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RUGBY CHAMPIONSHIP ROUND ONE: This is a significant Test match. Whatever is really going on by way of experimentation with the 2019 World Cup in mind, this match has a significance of its own.

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RUGBY CHAMPIONSHIP ROUND ONE: Australia aim to make a flying start against New Zealand in Sydney this weekend.

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TRANSFER NEWS: The Lions have turned to France to bolster their dwindling front row resources.

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It is guys like you who just don't get it. Only racist imbeciles want to deny black people opportunities in rugby, but evident for a few years now is that for the last more than 20 years there are blacks and coloureds who have wanted - and succeeded in - denying young white players opportunities in rugby.

I refer to schools competitions like Craven Week. Little doubt now, in time the chicken have come home to roost and the pool of top white players has grown smaller. On the other hand, great players like Habana, Pieterson, Beast and a few others have come to the fore, but how much better if we had a better pool of white players advancing with them, not being relegated to the bench to satisfy some racists with a grudge about what formerly existed in the country. Maybe that was just too much of an ask, but the consequences are now evident. We don't have the abundance of quality we once had.

Let me tell you a secret, as a group white South Africans have over decades produced some amazing players, and no matter how hard some try to make it change, it's now in the DNA, so this won't change and holding them back simply diminishes the nation.

We are talking about a national circumstance in which for many decades white youngsters of this nation grew up talking about and thinking about rugby from the time they were tiny tots and both athleticism and real love of the game produced some great international stars - who now less and less seem to be surfacing. The "player pool" of really good players obviously has shrunk. The reality of this - along with poor coaching (and that's another story) is our poor performances over almost a decade, and often not so good on and off before that. Government meddling has made a mess - like it has with so many other things!

For decades 80% of the population focused on soccer and had little interest in rugby. A report that former SARU president, Oregan Hoskins revealed, showed that other than in certain parts of the country, soccer remained the chosen sport of most black youngsters, so if they took "barely any part in sport they viewed as an extension of apartheid" (totally wrongly - then that was their choice. (Apartheid came into existence in 1948. Rugby began being played in South Africa some years before 1900, so how could it be an extension of apartheid?) The was just an erroneous perception.

The disgusting part to this 'transformation' abortion is that on racial grounds it has involved holding back with gross unfairness in school competitions, white youngsters who never experienced or contributed to apartheid. You meanwhile consider this a fair and reasonable circumstance because the process advances black and coloured youngsters. Just as apartheid wasn't 'fair and reasonable' so is this not fair, reasonable - or conducive to good race relations.

And look at the way you write. "Look at a guy like Bongi. You all labelled him a quota before he even got a shot." Until commenting recently, I never wrote a damn thing about Bongi, never referred to him as a 'quota', but you consider that you can lump me in with others who don't like him. But meanwhile it's just okay if "you all" disparage a white player. Your racism is just so evident that you should be ashamed.

"You guys are so blinkered it's frightening". Speak for yourself. Try taking the log our of your own eye before bothering about the splint in someone else's eye.

Talking about Einstein and your obvious lack of his genius, obviously (once again) you don't get the obvious point. As a matter of interest, my point - which for you needs careful explaining (like I had to do earlier in response to another of your 'brilliant', pointlessly disagreeable comments) - is that if we lose it won't do morale or our SR chances much good, so why take chances that don't need to be taken.

Kriel should play 12 meters away from the first team while they train

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I dont if Canterbury can beat Tasman this year they look too strong and have Tuafua to return!

Losing Rob Thompson to Manawatu was a massive loss for us.

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Steenkamp reminds me a bit of a young Ruben Kruger

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Leinster should have booked the Wasps game for the Aviva. The RDS 18,500 capacity stadium will be sold out within minutes. Its a difficult start for Leinster, as up to 20 first team players will have only played 2 matches by then because of the IRFU player welfare program. Wasps at home, might, be manageable, but Toulouse away, the following week, might be a bridge too far.

Suffering from rugby withdrawal at the moment!

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It is guys like you who just don't get it. Only racist imbeciles want to deny black people opportunities in rugby, but evident for a few years now is that for the last more than 20 years there are blacks and coloureds who have wanted - and succeeded in - denying young white players opportunities in rugby.

I refer to schools competitions like Craven Week. Little doubt now, in time the chicken have come home to roost and the pool of top white players has grown smaller. On the other hand, great players like Habana, Pieterson, Beast and a few others have come to the fore, but how much better if we had a better pool of white players advancing with them, not being relegated to the bench to satisfy some racists with a grudge about what formerly existed in the country. Maybe that was just too much of an ask, but the consequences are now evident. We don't have the abundance of quality we once had.

Let me tell you a secret, as a group white South Africans have over decades produced some amazing players, and no matter how hard some try to make it change, it's now in the DNA, so this won't change and holding them back simply diminishes the nation.

We are talking about a national circumstance in which for many decades white youngsters of this nation grew up talking about and thinking about rugby from the time they were tiny tots and both athleticism and real love of the game produced some great international stars - who now less and less seem to be surfacing. The "player pool" of really good players obviously has shrunk. The reality of this - along with poor coaching (and that's another story) is our poor performances over almost a decade, and often not so good on and off before that. Government meddling has made a mess - like it has with so many other things!

For decades 80% of the population focused on soccer and had little interest in rugby. A report that former SARU president, Oregan Hoskins revealed, showed that other than in certain parts of the country, soccer remained the chosen sport of most black youngsters, so if they took "barely any part in sport they viewed as an extension of apartheid" (totally wrongly - then that was their choice. (Apartheid came into existence in 1948. Rugby began being played in South Africa some years before 1900, so how could it be an extension of apartheid?) The was just an erroneous perception.

The disgusting part to this 'transformation' abortion is that on racial grounds it has involved holding back with gross unfairness in school competitions, white youngsters who never experienced or contributed to apartheid. You meanwhile consider this a fair and reasonable circumstance because the process advances black and coloured youngsters. Just as apartheid wasn't 'fair and reasonable' so is this not fair, reasonable - or conducive to good race relations.

And look at the way you write. "Look at a guy like Bongi. You all labelled him a quota before he even got a shot." Until commenting recently, I never wrote a damn thing about Bongi, never referred to him as a 'quota', but you consider that you can lump me in with others who don't like him. But meanwhile it's just okay if "you all" disparage a white player. Your racism is just so evident that you should be ashamed.

"You guys are so blinkered it's frightening". Speak for yourself. Try taking the log our of your own eye before bothering about the splint in someone else's eye.

Talking about Einstein and your obvious lack of his genius, obviously (once again) you don't get the obvious point. As a matter of interest, my point - which for you needs careful explaining (like I had to do earlier in response to another of your 'brilliant', pointlessly disagreeable comments) - is that if we lose it won't do morale or our SR chances much good, so why take chances that don't need to be taken.

Kriel should play 12 meters away from the first team while they train

543

I dont if Canterbury can beat Tasman this year they look too strong and have Tuafua to return!

Losing Rob Thompson to Manawatu was a massive loss for us.

1

Steenkamp reminds me a bit of a young Ruben Kruger

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Leinster should have booked the Wasps game for the Aviva. The RDS 18,500 capacity stadium will be sold out within minutes. Its a difficult start for Leinster, as up to 20 first team players will have only played 2 matches by then because of the IRFU player welfare program. Wasps at home, might, be manageable, but Toulouse away, the following week, might be a bridge too far.

Suffering from rugby withdrawal at the moment!

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To answer my own question, they changed the time midweek so R365 is right - I humbly apologise for doubting you!

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